a lot of people, families of the men and a few women i think who went to canada and they were -- they wanted to come back home so i issued a blanket pardon for them. i got some criticism, obviously. a lot of folks thought they should be executed for treason and so forth. >> larry: funny, not funny but the u.n. opening and your book published at the same time and that iran is always in the news, we'll be talking to president ahmadinejad on wednesday. >> all right. >> larry: and now we have this lady held more than a year on spying charges and iran says they want eight arrested iranians released. what do you make of all of this? >> well, first of all, i think we ought to keep maximum communication with leaders and their nations with whom we disagree. and i know that president obama promised he was going to do that when he went into office. but i think that's important. and i don't know -- i don't know what charges are against the eight iranians. i understand they violated the sanction against iran somehow or another but i hope the two still remaining over there, her if ian sunny her fri